Re: Bachelorette 8 - Videos - Thread #3

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Travis goes home on his date and Ryan is given a rose (believe we've seen the picture) but, he's not present in the scene before she walks out to talk to Chris H.- I think he was supposed to be behind Chris (the contestent) and she pulled him out and took back the rose then we get the video from that point - she starts to talk and is now second guessing herself about who's there for her and walks out. JMO - can't see why else they'd have them line up like that - odd formation. If Ryan had been sent home earlier than this wouldn't they have them lined up 3 and 3??

Isn't the problem with this scenario that we already have a picture of a forlorn Emily walking in Dubrovnik with a rose at night, wearing the same earrings and hairstyle as on her Ryan 1-on-1, and wearing a black wrap you can see in the staircase pic with Ryan?? That pic seems to suggest that he does NOT get the rose on the date... or she takes it back immediately after talking to Arie, after Ryan's 1-on-1... but then I don't know how to explain the RC drama.

re. the 1st 2 photos - If she gave Ryan the rose on the date he'd return to the hotel and she'd go to her hotel, date over, he has the rose. Arie shows up at her hotel just after she returns to let her know about Ryan. Is it possible that the last picture was of when she let Travis go? It was raining on their date and in the last picture the streets are wet. This could be a picture of her holding the rose that she never gave to Travis - I think if it was the Ryan rose she'd look more angry than sad. Do we know what she wore during her date with Travis? The earrings could be similiar. Just doesn't look like it was raining during Ryan's date.

This is what she was wearing during the night portion of Travis's 1on1, so not a match:




My theory :Smiley: :

- she sends Travis home on his 1on1
- she sends Ryan home on his 1on1 (but probably gives him a rose first and then takes it back after Arie comes and speaks to her)
- no one gets the GD rose (or it could be blurred out in that preview)

- she's having a 'symbolic' RC ('giving the guys a chance to accept the roses), but starts to second guess giving them all out after what happened with Ryan (''are all the guys left here for me?''), but ends up giving everyone a rose in the end after being reassured by Chris H that they are there for her

--->

That makes sense too. I don't see why she wouldn't give out the GD rose though. So I'd go with it being blurred out. I think they've done that before?

[nd4reality]

Ah, you're right, nd4reality. I forgot about that one.

I wish I could say "watch my posts, stay tuned" but in reality I have nothing .

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Travis goes home on his date and Ryan is given a rose (believe we've seen the picture) but, he's not present in the scene before she walks out to talk to Chris H.- I think he was supposed to be behind Chris (the contestent) and she pulled him out and took back the rose then we get the video from that point - she starts to talk and is now second guessing herself about who's there for her and walks out. JMO - can't see why else they'd have them line up like that - odd formation. If Ryan had been sent home earlier than this wouldn't they have them lined up 3 and 3??

Isn't the problem with this scenario that we already have a picture of a forlorn Emily walking in Dubrovnik with a rose at night, wearing the same earrings and hairstyle as on her Ryan 1-on-1, and wearing a black wrap you can see in the staircase pic with Ryan?? That pic seems to suggest that he does NOT get the rose on the date... or she takes it back immediately after talking to Arie, after Ryan's 1-on-1... but then I don't know how to explain the RC drama.

re. the 1st 2 photos - If she gave Ryan the rose on the date he'd return to the hotel and she'd go to her hotel, date over, he has the rose. Arie shows up at her hotel just after she returns to let her know about Ryan. Is it possible that the last picture was of when she let Travis go? It was raining on their date and in the last picture the streets are wet. This could be a picture of her holding the rose that she never gave to Travis - I think if it was the Ryan rose she'd look more angry than sad. Do we know what she wore during her date with Travis? The earrings could be similiar. Just doesn't look like it was raining during Ryan's date.

This is what she was wearing during the night portion of Travis's 1on1, so not a match:




My theory :Smiley: :

- she sends Travis home on his 1on1
- she sends Ryan home on his 1on1 (but probably gives him a rose first and then takes it back after Arie comes and speaks to her)
- no one gets the GD rose (or it could be blurred out in that preview)

- she's having a 'symbolic' RC ('giving the guys a chance to accept the roses), but starts to second guess giving them all out after what happened with Ryan (''are all the guys left here for me?''), but ends up giving everyone a rose in the end after being reassured by Chris H that they are there for her

--->

That makes sense too. I don't see why she wouldn't give out the GD rose though. So I'd go with it being blurred out. I think they've done that before?

Yes, they've blurred them out before. During Jake's season, we saw a preview of all the ladies coming down a staircase for a RC and the girl who won the GDR was holding it in her hand, but we figured out that it was completely blurred out.

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Do we know where this is??

[Jus_rub]

I think Arie came before the night portion of Ryan's date ( dont know if that's possible with her & Ryan's date location ). Because her make up (when Arie came) looked so fresh and her hair looked so neat. From the last picture ( the one where she's wearing a wrap ) looked a bit windy that night.

[summerluvn]

Loving reading through this thread tonight. I have great admiration for everyone's sleuthing and speculation skills.

[just logic]

I'm of the opinion that the only explanation for the weird lineup at the rose ceremony suggests that Ryan was there standing behind Chris, which would probably mean he had a rose (I think Chris has a rose and it's been blacked out). There's no reason for them to have 4 guys in the front row and only 2 in the back - it would be 3 and 3 if Ryan had not been present imo. Sure looks as though there's an obvious space where someone had been standing because otherwise John and Sean would be centered more.

[jenjen]

I'm of the opinion that the only explanation for the weird lineup at the rose ceremony suggests that Ryan was there standing behind Chris, which would probably mean he had a rose (I think Chris has a rose and it's been blacked out). There's no reason for them to have 4 guys in the front row and only 2 in the back - it would be 3 and 3 if Ryan had not been present imo. Sure looks as though there's an obvious space where someone had been standing because otherwise John and Sean would be centered more.

I agree with the bolded part. That line up doesn't make sense. But does it have to be Ryan? Could it have been Travis there? And then there are Mike Fleiss' tweets from that time:

Sun., Apr. 8 :

Mike Fleiss ‏ @fleissmeister:
@EmilyMaynard just delivered another bachelorette first!!!
Mike Fleiss ‏ @fleissmeister:
Turns out a rose in not always a rose...

Apr. 10th:

Mike Fleiss‏@fleissmeister:
@EmilyMaynard sure is her own woman... Wait til u see her journey.

According to the filming schedule here, Ryan's date was on the 9th. Are we sure about those dates?

4/7: 1-on-1 Date - Old Town, Dubrovnik (Travis Pope)
4/8: Group Date - After sneak peek at the film "Brave," the guys compete in a round of Highland games in order to win extra time with Emily (Arie Luyendyk, Jr., Chris Bukowski, Doug Clerget, Jef Holm, John Wolfner, Sean Lowe)
4/9: 1-on-1 Date - Ston, Croatia (Ryan Bowers)
4/10: Rose Ceremony

So I don't know how to explain the "a rose is not a rose" quote, if Ryan's date occurred after that.

So here's another theory, modeled after Kiki's format :

- she gives Travis a rose on his 1on1 (or maybe gives it to him then takes it back?)
- she sends Ryan home on his 1on1 (but probably gives him a rose first and then takes it back after Arie comes and speaks to her)
- no one gets the GD rose (or it could be blurred out in that preview)

- she takes the rose back from Travis at the RC, or it's just a symbolic RC and she starts to second guess giving them all out after what happened with Ryan (''are all the guys left here for me?''), but ends up giving everyone else a rose in the end after being reassured by Chris H that they are there for her

--->

Travis was pitching a reality show at some point... RS had that on his site. Maybe she found out about that, and was told he wasn't there for the right reasons?

[lavenderred]

Episode 6 previews.

The Bachelorette Emily -- Everything is about to change (long).
https://youtu.be/ba7smG6W0q0




The Bachelorette Emily -- Everything's about to change (short).
https://youtu.be/rmzAKCVZsYc

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Thank you lav!

[Guest]

I'm of the opinion that the only explanation for the weird lineup at the rose ceremony suggests that Ryan was there standing behind Chris, which would probably mean he had a rose (I think Chris has a rose and it's been blacked out). There's no reason for them to have 4 guys in the front row and only 2 in the back - it would be 3 and 3 if Ryan had not been present imo. Sure looks as though there's an obvious space where someone had been standing because otherwise John and Sean would be centered more.

I agree with the bolded part. That line up doesn't make sense. But does it have to be Ryan? Could it have been Travis there? And then there are Mike Fleiss' tweets from that time:

Sun., Apr. 8 :

Mike Fleiss ‏ @fleissmeister:
@EmilyMaynard just delivered another bachelorette first!!!
Mike Fleiss ‏ @fleissmeister:
Turns out a rose in not always a rose...

Apr. 10th:

Mike Fleiss‏@fleissmeister:
@EmilyMaynard sure is her own woman... Wait til u see her journey.

According to the filming schedule here, Ryan's date was on the 9th. Are we sure about those dates?

4/7: 1-on-1 Date - Old Town, Dubrovnik (Travis Pope)
4/8: Group Date - After sneak peek at the film "Brave," the guys compete in a round of Highland games in order to win extra time with Emily (Arie Luyendyk, Jr., Chris Bukowski, Doug Clerget, Jef Holm, John Wolfner, Sean Lowe)
4/9: 1-on-1 Date - Ston, Croatia (Ryan Bowers)
4/10: Rose Ceremony

So I don't know how to explain the "a rose is not a rose" quote, if Ryan's date occurred after that.

So here's another theory, modeled after Kiki's format :

- she gives Travis a rose on his 1on1 (or maybe gives it to him then takes it back?)
- she sends Ryan home on his 1on1 (but probably gives him a rose first and then takes it back after Arie comes and speaks to her)
- no one gets the GD rose (or it could be blurred out in that preview)

- she takes the rose back from Travis at the RC, or it's just a symbolic RC and she starts to second guess giving them all out after what happened with Ryan (''are all the guys left here for me?''), but ends up giving everyone else a rose in the end after being reassured by Chris H that they are there for her

--->

Travis was pitching a reality show at some point... RS had that on his site. Maybe she found out about that, and was told he wasn't there for the right reasons?

You nailed the theme this season.....setting the stage for Aries departure

[Rosepetal]

Delete...Saw the TV Grapevine video. Boy was I off.

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